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  Does forever mean forever?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  1 chronicles 28:9 "and you, my son solomon, acknowledge the god of your father, and serve him with wholehearted devotion and with a willing mind, for the lord searches every heart and understands every desire and every thought.

  if you seek him, he will be found by you; but if you forsake him, he will reject you forever.

  is the word "forever" literal or figurative?

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  Is olam the word that the New World Translation translates as "time indefinite"?
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses sued over sex abuse claims—some 2000 cases to choose from.

  by 4rationality in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  divining liability.

  kimberlee norris began evaluating these cases in july 2002. with some 2000 cases to choose from, norris and partner gregory love came up with a rigid profile of what kind of case and where.

  love and norris decided only to take cases where they could prove the church knew its member was a perpetrator and placed him in a position of authority anyway.

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  "As of May 2004, the firm had filed 57 suits across the country."

  Are these 57 cases all the cases that are considered extreme out of the 2,000 or are there other extreme cases that they haven't had time or resources to pursue?
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  The beginning of the end for shunning?

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the borg seem to prepare for changes by missing explanations out for a while then presenting a "new understanding" which doesn't contradict the most recent discussion.check out the most recent references to gog - no identification as satan.. in today's wt study, paragraph 15 concerning benefitting from the prodigal son stated "if we meet a person who has strayed from the congregation, will we offer loving and practical help to assist him to return?

  " there is no footnote or other qualifier saying not to go to disfellowshipped ones (who are definitely the ones being talked about) which is still the official policy.

  i know this isn't an ending to shunning, but it may signal the start of the preparation for a change.

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  Years ago they used to refer to 'strayers' as having "fallen out of the truth." Is that term still used?
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  All things considered, when will THE JW religion end?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  id give a guess of maybe another 15 to 20 years ,.

  nothing will be the same , if there even is a headquarters.. opinion?.

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  apostrate, that happened to the Worldwide Church of God.
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  The beginning of the end for shunning?

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the borg seem to prepare for changes by missing explanations out for a while then presenting a "new understanding" which doesn't contradict the most recent discussion.check out the most recent references to gog - no identification as satan.. in today's wt study, paragraph 15 concerning benefitting from the prodigal son stated "if we meet a person who has strayed from the congregation, will we offer loving and practical help to assist him to return?

  " there is no footnote or other qualifier saying not to go to disfellowshipped ones (who are definitely the ones being talked about) which is still the official policy.

  i know this isn't an ending to shunning, but it may signal the start of the preparation for a change.

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  @ The Searcher:

  "Only hard-core, obedient, contributing Witnesses will be the order of the day!"

  It happened in Rutherford's day, big-time.
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  For God So Loves the Western World...

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...that only people from those countries can lead 'his organization'.. a few years ago, one conversation stopper people would often bring up to jws in my country is: 'you guys are an american religion'.

  the standard answer we were formatted to give to shoot that down was that "god does not favor any nationality over others.

  however some countries do possess some advantages needed for the advancement of the divine work.

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  Tempest in a Teacup, thank you for the post but I have a question.

  Why should we suggest anything to the Watchtower/Governing Body that will improve them?
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  All things considered, when will THE JW religion end?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  id give a guess of maybe another 15 to 20 years ,.

  nothing will be the same , if there even is a headquarters.. opinion?.

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  @ never a jw, Sorry for the confusion.
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  The beginning of the end for shunning?

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the borg seem to prepare for changes by missing explanations out for a while then presenting a "new understanding" which doesn't contradict the most recent discussion.check out the most recent references to gog - no identification as satan.. in today's wt study, paragraph 15 concerning benefitting from the prodigal son stated "if we meet a person who has strayed from the congregation, will we offer loving and practical help to assist him to return?

  " there is no footnote or other qualifier saying not to go to disfellowshipped ones (who are definitely the ones being talked about) which is still the official policy.

  i know this isn't an ending to shunning, but it may signal the start of the preparation for a change.

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  What Finkelstein said above.

  If the Mormons have excommunication then why would the Witnesses not have it?
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  All things considered, when will THE JW religion end?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  id give a guess of maybe another 15 to 20 years ,.

  nothing will be the same , if there even is a headquarters.. opinion?.

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  @ never a jw:

  "Who are we to meddle because we personally do not like someone else's religion or beliefs? They might not like ours either."

  If you had grown up in the religion you would know why. And many of us do not believe in a god. Furthermore you seem to contradict yourself.

  "Humble yourselves and let God take care it. Let God take care of ending that which is false."

  Compare to:

  "By the way, I like a God that leaves humanity alone."
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  Lock the parking lot gate after the meeting starts?

  by MinisterAmos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  quick synopsis...the local spanish congo is the only one in about a 40 mile radius.

  most of the members live nearby, but the ones in the outskirts have up to a 1 hour trip depending on beach traffic.

  recently the wife and i noticed that the hall's parking lot had been secured by a wall and electric gates added to all three exits and entrances.

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  @ MinisterAmos: "...the wall surrounding the property is only about 2-3 feet tall...

  I'm relatively short but I would find 2-3 feet to high to step over for almost anyone. Why would they even put a wall if they just want to shut off entry to automobiles? Perhaps they were being cheap with a low wall but it seems that they want to block pedestrian access to the parking lot.

  Have there been any instances of pamphleteering the cars? I know that putting apostate literature at JW home's doors occurs every once in a while. An alarm, even if it covers the parking lot, would not do much to prevent pamphleteering which could take only a couple of minutes.

  But I'm just brainstorming.